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WTNT On Second Thought – New Shows from Sept 29 – Oct 5

Welcome back to On Second Thought! For those joining us for the first time, make sure you first check out Evan’s Watch This, Not That post (link below)! This is basically a follow-up that looks at the shows and our predictions for those shows. The column will be broken down into two basic parts.

First, I’ll look at how the show is doing in terms of raw numbers. I’ll be using the show’s ratings in the adult 18-49 category and the estimated number of viewers to see how the show is stacking up against other shows on its network. Keep in mind, a show is really only competing against other show on the same network, not shows from other, competing networks, despite the fact that it often feels that way.

Second, I’ll give you my own personal thoughts on each show. Consider this a more summarized version of the First Impression reviews we used to do here at Free For All. This, of course, has little bearing on whether the show will live or die on the small screen, but it may give you a sense of why a show is tanking or let you know that, despite possible cancellation, you should watch a particular show (think Trophy Wife from last year).

This is all just a guessing game, and there’s a little luck involved, but Evan and I love television, and love making bets, so this is basically our favorite part of every week. Feel free to play along and guess which or your favorite new shows will survive!

Evan’s initial “Watch This, Not That” post can be found here!

 

 Manhattan Love StoryManhattan Love Story (ABC)

 My First Thoughts: Watch This
 Evan’s First Thoughts: Watch This

What the Ratings Say:

Week 1: 1.5 adults 18-49 rating/4.70 mil viewers

Week 2: 0.9 adults 18-49 rating/3.27 mil viewers

It’s so nice when a show a really dislike does poorly. This isn’t because of any ill will I have towards the many smart and talented people who make television shows, because let’s face it, I couldn’t do it! But it is because it let’s me know that you guys out there making the choices, and speaking out with your remotes, agree with me! Manhattan Love Story premiered to a mediocre 1,5 rating and dropped hard to a 0.9 rating. By week three, I feel it’s fate is almost assuredly sealed. If you’re one of the few out there enjoying this train wreck of a show, do so while you can, because it may not last long.

My Second Thoughts:

Well, this show is bad. I’m not sure where to begin really, but I’m happy to give it a try. We can start with a grown ass woman’s inability to use a smart phone. This woman is roughly the same age as I am, and can’t use Facebook, This plot point is silly, annoying, and completely unbelievable. My mother can use Facebook! Now me move on to the “clumsy, but cute Couple” angle, which is occasionally charming, but was brought into focus very quickly after watching NBC’s Marry Me this week, which puts this show to shame in terms of how well this bit can be delivered. Add to all of this the exasperating voice over work that was cute for all of two minutes, and you have one of the worst new sitcoms of the fall. Stay away guys. Far, far away!

 

 

OST PeakyPeaky Blinders (Netflix)

 My First Thought: Watch This
 Evan’s First Thought: Watch This

What the Ratings Say:

Week 1: N/A

Week 2: N/A

Unfortunately, there is no way to see any sort of stats on how many people have watched a show on Netflix. There is also no real reason to analyze those numbers, even if we could get them, as Peaky Blinders is already airing its second season on BBC in the UK. I can tell you, if you’re just curious, that the show pulled in between 2 and 3 million viewers in the UK. I just can’t tell you if that’s any good or not, honestly. Apologies for being so short here guys, but just trust me, and watch the show!

My Second Thoughts:

This show is top-notch, but don’t my word for it. Read Andrew Boone’s review here.

 

 

OST StalkerStalker (CBS)

 My First Thought: Watch This
 Evan’s First Thought: Watch This

What the Ratings Say:

Week 1: 2.0 adults 18-49 rating/9.05 mil viewers

Week 2: 1.7 adults 18-49 rating/8.17 mil viewers

Stalker seems to be a shiny example of Dylan McDermott’s continued bad luck in show choice. Hostages didn’t even make it a full season last fall, and now this series, while I actually enjoy it, is in a very precarious position. Despite decent ratings, it is still underperforming in comparison to fellow CBS rookie dramas NCIS: New Orleans and Scorpion. It is possible that CBS decides to pick up three new dramas this year, but possible and likely are two very different things.

My Second Thoughts:

Unlike NCIS: New Orleans, which I despised, despite my general love of dramas and procedurals, Stalker is a very enjoyable show. You won’t hear me exclaim that it’s my favorite new show, or even drama, of the fall, but it is a cool and unusual premise, and both McDermott and Maggie Q are pleasant. It also does a decent job of balancing weekly stories with more involved story lines that seem they may extend across one or more seasons. My only knock against the show is that they may be taking the stalker thing a bit too far. They’re catching a new stalker every week, plus McDermott’s character is stalking someone, Maggie Q’s character is being stalked by someone else, and had another stalker once before. That’s a lot of stalking guys.

 

gracepointGracepoint (FOX)

 My First Thought: Watch This
 Evan’s First Thought: Watch This

What the Ratings Say:

Week 1: 1.2 adults 18-49 rating/4.76 mil viewers

Week 2: 0.9 adults 18-49 rating/3.80 mil viewers

Gracepoint is primed and ready for the chopping block. It’s ratings are dropping week over week, and these drawn out murder mysteries are often tough to make stick. It’s unlikely that FOX will yank the show though, as they have nothing original to replace it. Expect this to be the show’s one and only season though.

My Second Thoughts:

Despite the show’s middling ratings, I quite enjoyed the show. David Tennant has mastered yet another accent, and I have a soft spot for the man, I’ll admit. And Anna Gunn is really great (once again) at making me want to scream at the television because of how awful her character is. The cinematography in the show is also better than just about anything else on right now. I’m enjoying the mystery, but it’s early, and shows like this have to work hard to keep its audience interested. Hopefully, even though Gracepoint has lost most viewers, it can keep me interested for another nine episodes.

 

OST RemorseSurvivor’s Remorse (Starz)

 My First Thought: Not This
 Evan’s First Thought: Watch This

What the Ratings Say:

Week 1: 203,000 viewers

Week 2: N/A

No mystery here, Survivor’s Remorse has already been renewed for a second season. Considering its dismal viewership (Outlander did almost triple this show’s numbers in the same time slot just a few weeks ago), I have no idea why, but that’s why I don;t get paid the big bucks guys.

My Second Thoughts:

It’s rare I don’t get everything I want accomplished in a week. I;m a meticulous planner and a hard worker. But Survivor’s Remorse is a show I had no interest in, and unfortunately, with all that we do here at Free For All, I just couldn’t get to it folks. You’ll have to brave just this one alone.

 

SelfieSelfie (ABC)

 My First Thought: Watch This
 Evan’s First Thought: Not This

What the Ratings Say:

Week 1: 1.6 adults 18-49 rating/5.31 mil viewers

Week 2: 1.2 adults 18-49 rating/3.99 mil viewers

Selfie is yet another show I don’t think is going to make it past its freshman season. It premiered poorly and hasn’t fared well in the following weeks either. ABC simply has no reason to keep the dwindling sitcom around.

My Second Thoughts:

This is a good show. Not a great show mind you, but a good. I does the “I’m so bad at tech” thing way better than the awful Manhattan Love Story, and despite the horrible text speak and weird word abbreviations, the show is capable of showing some really great character growth, especially for a comedy. This is one I’ll stick with till the end, despite that end being nigh.

OST A to ZA to Z (NBC)

 My First Thought: Not This
 Evan’s First Thought: Not This

What the Ratings Say:

Week 1: 1.2 adults 18-49 rating/4.79 mil viewers

Week 2: 1.0 adults 18-49 rating/3.63 mil viewers

Evan and I were both right on this one! A to Z is almost certain to bite the dust. awful ratings, especially in week two, make this show a no brainer.

My Second Thoughts:

A to Z is OK at best, and I’m probably being generous with that assessment. The premiere had a couple of funny moments, and the premise of the show is fun, but overall I just didn’t care for the shows presentation. If I’m not going to laugh at your sitcom, then I better care about its characters, It needs to have some heart. And A to Z has not heart to be seen

 

Bad Judge (NBC)

 My First Thought: Watch This
 Evan’s First Thought: Not This

What the Ratings Say:

Week 1: 1.3 adults 18-49 rating/5.84 mil viewers

Week 2: 1.3 adults 18-49 rating/5.24 mil viewers

The fact that Bad Judge held on to a 1.3 rating for two straight weeks is a blight on this great nation! Wake up people, this show is terrible. Despite its lack of the classic week two drop, it’s ratings are still terrible and the show is (thankfully) on its way out.

My Second Thoughts:

 

Mulaney (FOX)

 My First Thought: Watch This
 Evan’s First Thought: Not This

What the Ratings Say:

Week 1: 1.0 adults 18-49 rating/2.30 mil viewers

Week 2: 1.1 adults 18-49 rating/2.19 mil viewers

I let my heart get the best of me on this one folks. I wanted it to succeed, and yet sadly, there is no show on the air right now more certain to be canned than Mulaney. It will most likely be pushed to the 7:30pm slot on Sundays very soon, if not yanked off the air completely very soon.

My Second Thoughts:

This show is so stereotypically 90’s sitcom it’s crazy. There’s a laugh track, weird and contrived setups for jokes, and canned delivery. Some of the acting is just awful. But despite all that, I laugh my proverbial ass off every time I watch the show. It helps that I’m not extremely familiar with John Mulaney’s standup, which does get implanted directly into some of the episodes. This is another one I look forward to despite its obvious flaws. I’ll be sad to see it go… sort of.

Check back next Tuesday when we cover another week’s worth of shows, including . Also, if you need a refresher on ratings, you can find a very quick and easy explanation here.

About Trey Elliott

Trey Elliott
Trey is a video game enthusiast, movie junkie, and cultivator of one fantastic beard. He loves to write original Gregorian chants, play the spoon harp, and speak of whatever comes to mind on the Free For All podcast.