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WTNT On Second Thought – New Winter/Spring Shows for January 2015

Welcome back to On Second Thought! For those joining us for the first time, make sure you first check out Evan’s Watch This, Not That post (link below)! This is basically a follow-up that looks at the shows and our predictions for those shows. The column will be broken down into two basic parts.

First, I’ll look at how the show is doing in terms of raw numbers. I’ll be using the show’s ratings in the adult 18-49 category and the estimated number of viewers to see how the show is stacking up against other shows on its network. Keep in mind, a show is really only competing against other show on the same network, not shows from other, competing networks, despite the fact that it often feels that way.

Second, I’ll give you my own personal thoughts on each show. Consider this a more summarized version of the First Impression reviews we used to do here at Free For All. This, of course, has little bearing on whether the show will live or die on the small screen, but it may give you a sense of why a show is tanking or let you know that, despite possible cancellation, you should watch a particular show (think Trophy Wife from last year).

This is all just a guessing game, and there’s a little luck involved, but Evan and I love television, and love making bets, so this is basically our favorite part of every week. Feel free to play along and guess which or your favorite new shows will survive!

Evan’s initial “Watch This, Not That” post can be found here!


Marvel’s Agent Carter (ABC)agent carter

 My First Thoughts: Watch This
 Evan’s First Thoughts: Watch This

What the Ratings Say:

First Episode: 1.9 adults 18-49 rating/6.91 mil viewers

Most Recent Episode: 1.4 adults 18-49 rating/4.25 mil viewers

Marvel’s Agent Carter is an odd bird for many reasons. Though they’ve never used the terminology, this always appeared to me to be what networks always now refer to as an “Event Series”. It’s only eight episode, and is only airing during the Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. winter break. On the other hand, I don’t doubt that if it did well, ABC would have greenlit a second run starring the badass Peggy Carter. The fact that this is Marvel and Disney/ABC is determined to keep thing’s going to tie in heavily to the MCU, also means that despite meddling ratings, we may see more Agent Carter anyways. So all of that to say, who knows, though my money is still on this being the one and done it always seemed to be!

My Second Thoughts:

I am absolutely loving Agent Carter! Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely have done an amazing job of capturing the 40’s feel in which the show takes place, the easter eggs run a muck though each and every episode, and I cannot not say enough positive things about both Hayley Atwell as Peggy Carter or James D’Arcy as Jarvis. It’s also great to see another strong female character play a promenade role in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, especially one that isn’t actually a superhero, but rather just extremely intelligent and capable. The show, despite a rough run in the ratings, has been the recipient of a good amount of critical praise, and is very much worth watching. Make sure and check it out!



Empire (FOX)empire

 My First Thought: Watch This
 Evan’s First Thought: Watch This

What the Ratings Say:

First Episode: 3.8 adults 18-49 rating/9.90 mil viewers

Most recent Episode: 4.8 adults 18-49 rating/11.96 mil viewers

Empire is what one might call a ratings juggernaut! Not only did it debut to gigantic ratings, it’s one of the rare shows that just keeps growing, week over week. The show is doing so well in fact, that FOX made the call to renew it for a second season after airing just two episodes! Needless to say, this show is a number success!

My Second Thoughts:

Most of you know that we watch an absolute TON of television every week. Evan and I keep up with nearly 60 shows each year. But alas, we can’t watch them all, and Empire is one that I missed on week one, and have not been able to get back in on since. I will recommend at least checking it out based on  the numbers alone, and hopefully I can catch up for season two!


12 Monkeys (SyFy)12 monkeys

 My First Thought:Watch This
 Evan’s First Thought: Watch This

What the Ratings Say:

First Episode: 0.4 adults 18-49 rating/1.35 mil viewers

Most Recent Episode: 0.2 adults 18-49 rating/755,000 viewers

SyFy isn’t exactly a channel that kills it in the rating, generally speaking. When you look at the ratings share for 12 Monkeys in comparison to some of the more major networks, it’s hard to see how you might call them successful. But keep in mind that the folks over at SyFy know who and what they are, and they know they’re more niche audience. These number are promising for the new show based on the 1998 Bruce Willis science fiction classic.

My Second Thoughts:

I cannot decide whether or not I like this show or not. The premise is extremely promising, and the time travel story line is done about as well as can be expected, but I just can’t seem to get invested in anyone. Character buy in is something that I personally need in a show. I need to care about someone, about whether they will succeed, or perish, or rise above. Right now I couldn’t care less about these characters and that hurts the show for me. I will say though, that despite that, I can recognize that show has some solid performances and is well put together. I would still suggest putting in a the time to watch a couple of episodes and seeing what you think, especially if you really enjoy time travel stories, or science fiction in general.


Galavant (ABC)galavant

 My First Thought: Not This
 Evan’s First Thought: Not This

What the Ratings Say:

First Episode: 2.0 adults 18-49 rating/7.42 mil viewers

Last Episode: 1.1 adults 18-49 rating/4.37 mil viewers

Galavant was a bit doomed from the beginning. Airing with back to back episodes for four weeks, the show wasn’t really set up for success. Add to that the crash in ratings as it continued through it’s eight episode run, and you have a show that is certain to never see a second season.

My Second Thoughts:

While the rest of my Free For All podcast hosts would disagree with me, I did not enjoy Galavant at all. As someone who love musicians, I had high hopes for the series, but was disappointed almost immediately. The pilot episode used one melody through the entire 22 minutes, drilling it into my unwilling brain until I barely had the will to start the second episode. Episode two was a bit better, musically speaking, but then you have to get past a few cringe-worthy performances that Timothy Omundson’s stand out showing just can’t make up for. Sorry to say that, personally, I can’t recommend this show in the slightest.


Backstrom (FOX)backstrom

 My First Thought: Not This
 Evan’s First Thought: Not This

What the Ratings Say:

First Episode: 1.9 adults 18-49 rating/7.98 mil viewers

Most Recent Episode: 1.2 adults 18-49 rating/4.39 mil viewers

While the show had a decent premiere, it dropped off hard in episodes two and three, getting down to just a 1.0 rating. While there was a small uptick in week four to 1.2, it’s still not looking good for the new Rainn Wilson series. It’s not certainty, but if you’re watching this show and enjoying it, just know you may be watching the one and only season that it will ever have.

My Second Thoughts:

The pilot of Backstrom was pretty awful. Rainn Wilson just comes off as annoying, instead of the annoyingly charming I think he’s going for. The pacing, which should deb a walk in the park of any procedural, is an absolute mess, and worst of all, the show isn’t funny. However, as the show has continued on, I have found myself liking it more and more, despite it’s flaws. While I certainly cannot promise you’ll like it, if you do try it out, make sure you don’t base your opinions on what is maybe one of the most disappointing pilots of the year.

If you need a refresher on ratings, you can find a very quick and easy explanation here.

About Trey Elliott

Trey Elliott
Trey is a video game enthusiast, movie junkie, and cultivator of one fantastic beard. He loves to write original Gregorian chants, play the spoon harp, and speak of whatever comes to mind on the Free For All podcast.